FFXIV 3.0 Crafting (DoH) BiS and Materia Melding

UPDATED FOR HEAVENSWARD! Find out crafting best in slot, and the stepping stones you need to get there! Melding caps for BiS and Chimerical tier.

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Welcome to our Crafting (DOH) BiS and melding guide! Before we begin, let me preface this guide by saying the current tier of crafting gear has a “3 tier BiS’, or more precisely 3 sets that you’ll likely have a mix and match of. As time passes, it’s possible to directly purchase the highest level gear at reasonable prices. But, if you’re crafting your own stuff, you’re likely going to have a mix of all 3 tiers.

Crafting Absolute BiS: Melded 170 (Red scrip) “Master” Set

DISCLAIMER: THERE IS NO NEED TO MELD THESE RIGHT NOW. Since the next tier of crafting recipes may have a requirement which specifies a certain stat threshold, I cannot recommend any specific melded stats right now. I may post how I will meld these, but FOLLOW IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. Again, since we know nothing of the next tiers requirements, any melds to this tier of gear is risky.  (Since left-side gear is specific per class, I’ll use Culinarian as an example).

Two schools of thought when buying these upgrades:
– Offhand -> Shirt -> Weapon (maximum stats, but class specific)
– Belt, Accessories first (maximum “shared” pieces) (I personally dont like this)

The meld caps are currently UNTESTED, at least by myself.

ItemCraftsControlCP12345
Galleymasters Frypan+43+23+4Crafts V????????????
Wrapped Adamantite Culinary Knife+43+23+4Crafts V????????????
Galleymasters Toque+9+12+0Control V????????????
Galleymasters White+36+12+0Crafts VCrafts V?????????
Galleymasters Gloves+9+12+0Control V????????????
Griffin Leather Toolbelt+9+12+4Control V????????????
Galleymasters Trousers+1+12+4Control IVControl IVControl IVCP IVCrafts I
Galleymasters Topboots+1+12+4Control V????????????
Astral Birch Necklace+9+8+8???????????????
Aurum Regis Earrings of Crafting+9+8+8???????????????
Astral Birch Armillae+9+8+8???????????????
Astral Birch Ring+9+8+4Control IVControl IVCP IVCrafts IIICrafts II
Astral Birch Ring+9+8+4(ALT) Control VCP IVCrafts IIICrafts IIControl I

Those which are cappable without V’s, I placed the info above. Pretty much, the melding strat above is USELESS, since we don’t know what stats to aim for in the next tier. Again, leaving it unmelded for now is fine. I just put up there what I would meld if I had those materia, and studying from previous trends.

Reference for set names:
ALCCauldronmaster
ARM: Hammermaster
BSM: Forgemaster
CRP: Millmaster
CUL: Galleymaster
GSM: Gemmaster
LTW: Hidemaster
WVR: Boltmaster

Stepping stone: Red Scrip bought 180, “Keep” Set

Notes: this set, as stated above, is a stepping stone. For those who don’t want to take risks, this set is great to help you GETTING to the end-game. The stats are definitely comparable to BiS, though. You get this set by trading it in for red scrips straight up, as compare to the BiS which you trade in the base materials for. Again, this is mainly for those who don’t want to risk their red scrip investment (It costs more and safer, but is slightly weaker).

These are UNMELDABLE.

SlotItem NameCost
WeaponBoltkeeps Needle26x50 Red Scrip (1300) +T1 Counterfoil
OffhandNO OFFHANDNO OFFHAND
HeadBoltkeeps Gibus8x50 Red Scrip (400) +T1 Counterfoil
BodyBoltkeeps Dreadnought18x50 Red Scrip (900) +T1 Counterfoil
HandBoltkeeps Gloves8x50 Red Scrip (400) +T1 Counterfoil
WaistNO WAISTNO WAIST
LegsBoltkeeps Slacks7x50 Red Scrip (350) +T1 Counterfoil
FeetBoltkeeps Top Boots7x50 Red Scrip (350) +T1 Counterfoil
---NO ACCESSORYNO ACCESSORY

Which of these pieces should I buy!? To be honest, I see value in buying the WEAPON OR SHIRT, as they give massive bang for buck in relation to the rest. As such they’re also the most legit when used as a stepping stone. Other pieces should be avoided. Of course more casual crafters can just go for this set, and there is no downside AS OF THIS PATCH.

TL;DR: If you’re too poor to risk red scrips, buy the weapon and chest from this tier first.

Minimum Baseline: i150 for 718 Crafts, 695 Control

Notes: A lot of people will have this as the starting point. I will be posting a melding strategy to MEET THE BARE MINIMUM STATS for 2*, then you can upgrade as you wish, but technically any meld past that is wasted. Again this melding strategy tries to avoid the pieces you’ll be upgrading first… namely the Chest, Mainhand and Off-hand. More expensive melds are better served on pieces you’ll be keeping for a long time…

So – the below table represents shows you the STAT CAPS, but the MELDING STRATEGY is for reaching 718 Crafts, 695 Control while under the effects of  HQ Seafood Stew.

ItemCra CAPCon CAPCP CAP12345
Adamantite Alembic+++Control IIICrafts IIIanyanyany
Adamantite Mortar+++Control IIICrafts IIIanyanyany
Chimerical Felt Turban of Crafting+++CP IVControl IVControl IIICrafts IIICrafts I
Chimerical Felt Doublet of Crafting+++CP IVControl IVCrafts IIIanyany
Serpentskin Gloves of Crafting+++CP IVControl IVControl IIICrafts IIICrafts I
Dragonskin Belt of Crafting+++CP IVCrafts IIIControl IIIanyany
Chimerical Felt Skirt+++CP IVControl IVControl IIICrafts IIICrafts I
Serpentskin Shoes+++CP IVControl IVControl IIICrafts IIICrafts I
Hallowed Chestnut Necklace+++CP IVCrafts IIIControl IIIany any
Dragon Fang Earrings+++CP IVCrafts IIIControl IIIany any
Hallowed Chestnut Armillae+++CP IVCrafts IIIControl IIIany any
Hallowed Chestnut Ring+++Crafts IVControl IIICP IIIany controlany control
Hallowed Chestnut Ring+++Crafts IVControl IIICP IIIany controlany control
Seafood Stew(0)(31)(50)-----

You can alter the melds a bit by: Adding a few more stats in weapon/offhand/chest, or upgrading from III to IV. Note that control isn’t capped in the body pieces, this is easily doable by exchanging Crafts II with Control III. Again, there’s a lot of space to tweak depending on your budget here.

I will be updating this with more precise melds as I discover an optimal rotation for crafting 2 star with the bare minimum stats, as well as a “more stable” rotation with higher stats. Stay tuned! For more awesome FFXIV updates, crafting or otherwise, like us on Facebook! Message us on Twitter! Check us out on YouTube and Twitch! See you in Eorzea!

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138 thoughts on “FFXIV 3.0 Crafting (DoH) BiS and Materia Melding”

  1. Where’s the level 50 data at? The 1-49 guide linked here for how to meld level 50 gear, but it seems to just be talking about the level 60 HW stuff.

  2. So, I was doing some math here, and feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but the craftable mainhand actually cannot be melded to reach the same stats as the red scrip mainhand (it has the capability, but 5 slots isnt enough, even with all tier 5 materia), and the chest barely meets the red scrip chest (and would require all tier 5 as well).

    Therefore, wouldn’t those 2 red scrip pieces actually be BIS over the melded craftables?

    1. You know, I was also considering this. I’m recalculating all this since 3.2 introduces a new “stats to aim for” Which is 850 CRA 820 CON. Given that the old BiS was basically “not even useful”. I’ll be checking this out soon – great observation, I’m thankful im not the only one who noticed lol.

  3. Astral Birch Necklace +9 +8 +8 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
    Aurum Regis Earrings Of Crafting +9 +8 +8 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
    Astral Birch Armillae +9 +8 +8 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

    for those 3 pieces it should be v in craftsmanship and 2 iv for cp and 2 iv for control only way to cap them if u trying for max stats from melds

    for belt to max cap that its 2 v controls, and iv cp, and 3 and 2 craftsmanship

  4. Is it possible to do a passable job at high-end crafting with only the melded traded artisan’s set?

    I ask this because demimaterias cost way too much, and this is made worse by the fact I may fail at getting it to 100% HQ, even with all the cross-class skills (and there’s no way I’m grinding my way through the desynthesis skill at this point).

  5. Great guide! Just one question…

    In the section on pre-bis gear under off-hand you list: command IV, craftsmanship IV, command iii, command iii, command I.

    What do you mean by craftsmanship IV? Competence materia IV (+6 craftsmanship) or Competence materia II (+4 craftsmanship)??

  6. You can also obtain Moonstones from treasure map hunts, one’s I’ve seen have been in Peisteskin maps, and some of my friends have mentioned Unhidden and even lower tier maps as well. I can confirm the Peisteskin map does contain Moonstone though.

  7. Thanks for putting a bit of new info on here. I just happened to click on it looking for some old info and noticed the new stuff at the top. Can you rename the title since new 2.5 info is some what added?
    max new body is craft+18 control+6 cp+3

  8. Greetings!

    I am a Chinese preparing for 2.4 (we are in 2.3 now). We are actually shocked by the amount of FC3 needed to purchase the 11 main-hands.

    In total 110 fc3 are almost impossible for me to collect. I’d like to know what you did when you were in 2.3 and 2.4.

    Thanks!

    1. Desynthesis is the way! Many people desynthesized this NPC buyable wedding suits/shoes… but I don’t know if that works still

  9. There is a mistake on one of the melds, you have Command IV Competence III and Competence II then Command I, however if you add the CP II you get craftsmanship 0 can you please fix this?

    1. To speak in defense of the people here, It is very difficult to recommend any stats at the moment. This is because the current setup allows it so that if you meld, you get way over the amount needed to hit the floor for 4-star. There are also 2 pieces of gears that are impossible to max out on meld (Artisan’s Apron and the Artisan’s Offhand). So the real answer to this question is: There actually is no “absolutely recommended stats” as there is no real superiority between craftsmanship and control (CP is always a thing of debate so I am just gonna leave it out of the equation here). You are going to have to juggle a bit yourself.

      To give my completely useless two-cents to you, I decided to invest heavily on Craftsmanship over Control. I have melded +15 on all the Artisan’s Offhand that I have and +18 on the Artisan’s Apron. Major reason why I did this was because I felt that as the new tier of crafting is added, there has always been a pretty big leap on Craftsmanship. As far as I know, I could be completely wrong for the next crafting update, but that is the choice that I made.

      1. Yes that is true. there is no “best” meld for the offhand and the chest – but I agree (like stated above) that 15 craft on offhand should be mandatory

    1. I asked the same question sometime ago. Did not receive the answer, but i figured out that when they say CPIII it is the materia that adds CP, tier 3

    1. With Lucis – this no longer is a requirement. But when it didnt exist most every high end crafter already chose to put 15CRFT in their OH – i can recalc later, but its a practical choice.

    1. Aye, this is indeed an oversight in my part – the crafting progression is confusing especially if you’re PAST those points

  10. Just an add-on, the crafted i60 Artisan’s gear, except the new Apron, can be nq and still melded to cap stats. The apron and offhands cannot have all stats capped anyways so HQ is BiS for that still.

      1. yep Positive, using the Artisan’s Culottes for example, NQ will start with 3 Craftsmanship and 29 Control I believe, if you use Command IV(control +4), Command III (control +3), Command III (Control +3), Cunning III (CP +3) , Competence I (Craftsmanship +3, in effect +1) it will reach the same stats as a capped HQ, just takes a couple more materia but could save you some cash.

  11. As of 2.5 AF Body is no longer the BiS

    HQ Artisan’s Apron: 101/33/0
    Capped 119/39/3*

    *If you do the math you’ll see that you cannot actually cap all 3 stats, so you have to choose 2. I’d probably cap control and cp because the extra craftmanship doesn’t really help you hit a breakpoint. This may change in the future however, so it’s up to you.

    1. they are probably trying to determine where and when to get the new i70 stuff, as its an alternative gearset.
      if you are only looking for the new chest melds, it cannot be max melded.
      best meld available is competence 4, competence 4, command 4, competence 4, cp 3. that leaves 2 control out, but max melds the other two.
      max is +18 crafts, +6 con, +3 cp

  12. hi guys, i am working on my crafts a while now, and as many of you on this page i got addicted to it wvr gsm crp and cul @ 50, bsm and arm 35+ alc and ltw 15, i am trying to get the right sequence for my skills so i can to make both the mosshorn earring and the rosegold choker hq, is anyone able to tell me with my available skills, what would be the best order to get them both hq, so i can start working on materia melding on my accesories ? i dont have artisan gear, but all ilvl 55 gear for wvr gsm cul and crp, so i am looking to get ready for the real e.g stuff ( still a long road lol ) if anyone could help me that would be awesome !

    1. IMO you’re better off buying SOME of the higher tier gear because itll save you ALOT of time intead of gearing up how the old-school crafters did. (Artisans OFFHAND comes to mind)

  13. Don’t forget to update the token trade-in section with the new values for 2.45 :D
    Most are significantly less than 50 now ;p

      1. I can only speak for the weaver class, since I just reached 3-star there. It only takes 8 weaver tokens to get the Artisan tool.
        I know it changes for each class, so take a look next time you’re in Mor Dhona.

  14. This guide screwed me. After making 4 Artisan Tools based in what is suggested here, I noticed that the craft is bellow 451, the value necessary to make 4 start items. Made me waste all time and money. I’ll never use this screwed guide anymore.

    1. You’ve definitely misread something buddy. Artisans tools are from the previous tier – SUPRA WEAPON is listed in the main table.

    2. Oh, and if you bought MILITIA offhand, thats from the previous tier too. ARTISANS offhand is also listed in main table. Please read properly before commenting.

  15. If you can not get HQ on these then you can still reach max stats on NQ versions. Works on legs gloves and feet.
    Command IV, Command III, Command III, Cunning III, Competence I.

  16. The Artisan’s Culotte’s and Sandals both have 3 guaranteed meld slots on them, so you’re better off putting 2 Control III’s on instead of a Control IV and Control II.

  17. i55 Off-hand – Command IV, Crafts IV, Command III, Command III, Command I.

    What does Crafts IV mean? Technically they all begin with the words Craftsman’s so which of the stats is this saying that I need to meld in this spot?

    1. The new 4-star items require Craftsmanship of 451 and Control of 407, having a difficulty of 586 and a Max Quality of 5783. Pretty steep. Right now, with the Supra MH and an unmelded HQ Artisan OH, rest of gear meld-capped, my BSM is sitting at 436 Crafts and 399 Control (no Ehcatl gloves, so 403 with those). With 5 points of Crafts melded onto that OH I could reach the 4-star requirements with the level II FC actions (+10 Crafts/Control), but that Ehcatl Sealant is enough of a pain to get (48 Oaknots = 6 Sealants = 8 days of missions per OH). I’m glad I have 2 lvl 50 crafting toons to run those Ixal missions!

      (With the new Shark Fin Soup buffing Craftsmanship primarily, I gotta wonder if there is some variation in the usual rotations that will allow for a lower CP requirement with your Crafts buffed … or whether it’s just another useless food the devs have tossed us so I can stick with HQ Bouillabaisse)

      1. I meant to say that the Sealant is enough of a pain to get that I’m not going to waste just tossing 5 Crafts into an OH without knowing what melds it can take overall, or knowing how much Control will be needed to hit that 5783. Given that the Dodore items only increased meld limits by 1 or so per stat, I imagine that the current OH limits of 19 Crafts and 11 Control are probably close to what the new OHs will take, so putting 3 Command IV materia onto an OH might be worth it. I just don’t have the IVs or the gil to buy them to test it out right now :(.

        1. My recommendations on which Artisan OHs to go for first, for Builders of the Realms:
          (1) Blacksmith: This class makes 6 of the crafting OHs including the one for CRP.
          (2) Carpenter: Artisan Sandals are a 4-star CRP recipe, and OHs for WVR & GSM.
          (3) Weaver: Artisan Culottes are a 4-star WVR recipe.
          (4) Leatherworker: Artisan Mitts are a 4-star LTW recipe.

        2. Melds for 8 Control and 15 Craftsmanship on the Artisan OH (Cmnd IV, Cmnd IV, Comp III, Comp III, Comp III) will get you to 451 Crafts/407 Control/452 CP with the Supra MH and i55 gear meld-capped, which meets the minimums for 4-star crafting. Using the Ehcatl gloves will allow you to hit the mins with less than 2 Cmnd IVs on an OH until you get the Artisan Sandals, Culottes and/or Mitts for the increase in Control they give.

  18. Hi
    I’m new to this melding business. Before I start melding, got a question.

    Can you tell me why on my server Craftsman II costs 25K GIL when Craftsman III costs 10K? Could I just Craftsman III in place of Craftsman II, or would that do something bad?

    Thanks

    1. after recent changes to spirit bonding its much easier to get levl III material than II, and the market reflects that. As to your second Question, using craftsman III instead of II will have a lower chance of successful meld. today I needed to ad a Competence II, which had only a 13% chance of success. but competence II is running 44K on my server right now, and I already had a stack of 25 competence III. I checked and using competence III dropped to chance for a successful meld to 11%. I decided it was better to take a lesser meld chance than to shell out so much money on a material that had such a low chance for successful meld anyways. Sometimes the difference is more like 35% vs 22%, so you have to judge on a case by case basis.

  19. Ehcatl Smithing Gloves: ilvl 70 DoH glove. 4 craftsmanship, 39 Control. Requires to be Sworn with Ixal Tribe and exchange 10 tokens for it from the vendor.

      1. It’s still not bad to have as a universal for other classes as the trade off is 3 Control for 3 CP until you can save up enough materia to max meld the other gloves.

  20. There’s an ilvl 70 hands from the ixal quests they have 4 craftsmanship and 39 control would these be better than ilvl 55 class septic melded

  21. I’m curious if you plan on, or can implement, doing a Good – Better – Best type of BiS gear guide (like you do for DoW/M classes) for those that are just getting into the crafting arena and want to know what’s good and will help get them from Good to Better or Better to Best. Great guides otherwise. I use them to properly meld my FC members’ gear all the time.

  22. I dont know if im reading this wrong but you have 5 Materia listed under chest gear but my weavers chest gear only has 2 materia slots available….Same goes for all the other gear.. seems like there is more materia listed under each gear than what is actually meldable.

  23. Just this morning I was able the meld 3 grade 3 control materiak to weaver’s thighboots NQ I think it is time to recheck max meld on old items

  24. Hey, noticed that on the 1st table w/ the rose gold gorget you only have 0(+3), 0(+3) and 32(+5) on the craft/control/cp. this is wrong right? it’s supposed to be 4/4/6, which you have on the 3rd table. Just in case no one’s noticed yet.

  25. If you use a Rose Gold Gorget to craft, you’re probably going to have a bad time. Rose Gold Choker would be a bit better :P

  26. So…my question wasn’t acceptable? Only “OMG GREAT GUIDE!!!!” remarks are actually posted? …yea…that helps the community…

    1. im sorry but i’ve been on vacation – im sifting the massive pile of comments now – which one was yours?

  27. I’m…I’m genuinely baffled.

    Just taking control into consideration…with your max melds (which are accurate…I’ve done just this)…you get:

    61+69+36+36+36+31+36+36+3+3+4+4+4 = 359…not 374. I have maxed Dodore and Moss and have Artisan goggles…which brings me to 370. Still not 374 (except I blew a fortune in a couple classes to bring my offhand to +12).

    Similarly your maxed Command only comes to 378. >.>

    I’m not trying to be difficult…I just genuinely don’t get it. The numbers don’t add up. Even with each of these melds I can’t craft 3 star without food and/or an artisan weapon.

    What am I missing?

    1. Please keep in mind attmepting 3 star you need your i70 weapon…. i think you’re still using your blue weapon.

  28. Do you guys plan on updating this to 2.3? i think with all the new gathering and crafting items we need a new guide :)

  29. For the new Leatherworker master recipe — the Dodore Belt — HQ gives Control +31. You can put +5 Control, +4 Craftsmanship and +3 CP onto it. I chose this for my melds, in this order: Command III, Competence II, Command II, Cunning III.

    1. I was referring to Artisans Spectacles, which are highly recommended to get as compared to getting and melding class specific greens.

      1. I made all the new crafting accessories and melded them yesterday, so I have their stat caps on hand :). Dodore Belt HQ has 31 Base control, can be melded with up to 5 more control to 36, 3 CP, and 4 Craftsmanship.
        Rose Gold Choker HQ Has 32 Base CP, can be melded with up to 4 Control, 6 CP, and 4 Craftsmanship.
        Mosshorn Earrings HQ have 32 base CP, can be melded with 4 Control, 6 CP for a total of 38, and 4 Craftsmanship.

        I can confirm that all these stats are capped as I have them all melded, and any time I attempt to add any more of any of these stats, I get a red 0 in the meld window. Hope this helps!

        1. I verified this myself, and I can confirm it. This was a most useful info. My thanks for sharing it; I could reach 374 control points without having to meld off-hands at all thanks to knowing the melds for Dodore Belt HQ, which is sure to help a lot.

  30. Hi, really great guide! I just wanted to ask if this is all current gear/materia? because I’m going to start crafting my DoH end gear starting today, thanks. :)

    1. I think the general idea is none because with a fully melded set you should be able to get the Artisan’s glasses which have higher stats then the individual head gears for the craft classes and also require (and have) no melding possible.

  31. You should never have a IV in a non guaranteed slot, it’s to risky. The body should be Craft IV Craft IV Ctrl III Ctrl II Craft II

        1. That is ignorant comment. A guide can encompass almost anything, and the materia meld order has only to do with most “EFFICIENTLY” allocating the materia to your item. EFFICIENCY can be defined by cost so yes of course you could include “price” in a guide. Stupid ass troll

  32. Are you getting the materia names mixed up with the stats they give? I’m looking particularly at the offhand. The names suggest you’ll be getting 11 Control and 5 Craftsmanship. But I’m assuming you got the names mixed up and meant for the “Command” materia to actually be Competence and for the “Crafts” to be Command. That’d give 19 Craftsmanship and 4 Control.

    Also, I think a picture of you gear/materia would simplify things tremendously.

  33. I think you can improve this by taking your overages and applying them to the ilvl 55 head slot to reduce the number of IV’s needed prior to getting the ilvl70 hat.

  34. Great guide, however, I have noticed that there may have been a mistake in the CP part between the Earrings and the Choker.
    The first table states that the max meld for the choker is (5), and the earrings is (6).
    The second table states that the max meld for the choker is (6), and the earrings is (5).
    The third list of recommended melding states that the max meld for the choker is (5), and the earrings is (6).

    Another site states that the first and third are correct, so I’m going to assume you made a mistake with the order in the second table since you had the neck piece before the earrings in the others.
    It did confuse me at one point.

    Just a heads up. :)

    1. * The blue weapon for the level 50 quest will be replaced once you buy the class-specific Artisans tool. Neither of them are meldable with materia.

    1. Yes most of the time the higher level & gil cost materia are further up. There are based on general server prices, so make sure you have a look first.

  35. Sorry, but no matter how often I calculate, with these melds and Artisan headgear and mainhand I only get to 384 Craftsmanship and 373 Control. Is there something I’m missing?

    1. Let me double check, since im looking at my stats right now and it sits at 390+ 374+ on both of my master crafters.

        1. You need the advanced melding action. Just go do the next quest materia quest where you got the first one (central thanalan?).

  36. Thank you very much for this. I noticed I had a bit of a surplus of Gil, but this soon fixed that. Cost me 1.4m gil just to do the jewellery!! Gonna have to save before i can finish the job on the regular gear :P

    I assume the order you do melds in is solely related to price? As on my server craftsmanship II is more expensive than CP III and CP IV, so I swapped them round for wrists/rings — that doesn’t change percentage chances right?

    1. This is from my general experience, but yes use your own wisdom when you think the prices are skewed. This melding pattern is based off both price/success chance ratio.

  37. Hmm maybe my math is wrong but doing all you post here, that’s without the artisan gear of course we get Craftmanship 378 and Control 359 just tell me where is the rest?

    Thank you in advance.

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