FFXIV Tank Role Actions: Guide & FAQ

All you need to know about the Tank Role Actions introduced in Stormblood!

Hey guys! In Stormblood, the cross-class skill system was completely replaced with the Role Action System. Here we talk all about the Tank Role Actions, and what’s best to use!

What Jobs get the Tank Role Actions?

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Tank Role Actions List

Skill Level Recast Effect Duration
Rampart 8 90 20% defensive cooldown. 20
Low Blow 12 25 Stun. 5
Provoke 16 40 Provoke. Puts you at the top of a target’s threat meter. NA
Convalescence 20 120 Increase healing received by 20%. 20
Anticipation 24 60 Increase Parry rate by 30%. 20
Reprisal 32 60 Lowers target’s damage dealt by 10%. 5
Awareness 36 120 Nullifies chance of suffering critical damage. 25
Interject 40 30 Silences target. 1
Ultimatum 44 90 AoE version of Provoke. (5y) NA
Shirk 48 120 Transfers 25% of enmity to target party member. NA

Tank Role Actions: Quick Strategy & Discussion

Here’s a general rundown and a quick analysis on how useful each of the tank role actions are.

Rampart: Your bread and butter defensive cooldown. A must have if you are ever planning on taking damage. Take it 99% of the time.

Low Blow: Only bring it if there is something that needs to be stunned. If you played DRK before, keep in mind this no longer does damage!

Provoke: Essential for any encounter with a tank swap. Every tank has also used this as a panic button, heh. (Provoke mechanics in FFXIV work like this: you get to the top of the enemies’ enmity meter +1: so you have to follow it up or you will lose aggro right after)

Convalescence: A decent cooldown, but varies GREATLY depending on your synergy with healers. Has a nice interaction with DRK’s Living Dead. Great for large dungeon pulls.

Anticipation: High uptime, but not a lot of mitigation. It’s more reliable against a lot of small hits than hoping to parry a few large ones.

Reprisal: Basically free damage reduction. This is useful for any boss encounter. A must have for any raid or trial. Not as useful in dungeons as it only affects 1 target.

Awareness: Very situational; it’s hard to say if you need this or not without being familiar with the content you are running. Has good synergy with cooldowns such as Raw Intuition or Bulwark.

Interject: Same as Low Blow, only bring this if something must be silenced.

Ultimatum: Provoke in an AoE definitely great for dungeons, an “oh shit” button when all the mobs start running towards the healer. I would suggest bringing this over Provoke for dungeons, but not for trials or raids. (Provoke mechanics in FFXIV work like this: you get to the top of the enemies’ enmity meter +1: so you have to follow it up or you will lose aggro right after)

Shirk: Helps make tank swaps a lot easier. Only useful in raids and trials, do not bring this into dungeons. It has a niche application for opening bursts for raids, but it’s only something a finely tuned group would consider (and even then, maybe pointless).

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Tank Role Actions for Dungeons

These role actions should be taken when “queuing blind” in a random dungeon, and should serve you well for general content.

  • Rampart: Short cooldown and powerful. You’re crazy to zone without it.
  • Convalescence: Amazing when doing large pulls, takes a lot of stress from your healer.
  • Anticipation: Good when dealing with a lot of enemies.
  • Ultimatum: When you lose aggro, this helps you to regain it from multiple enemies quickly.
  • Low Blow: Useful for interrupting attacks that would force you to move. Usefulness varies in specific dungeons. The stun also works as “mitigation”, as that mob won’t hit you.

Awareness: Dungeon monsters crit! They crits add up when pulling big groups. VERY GOOD for speedrunning.

Provoke is mostly unneeded for experienced tanks. Ultimatum is probably a little better in dungeons. Don’t be afraid to take one / both if you’re still learning.

Reprisal is a poor skill for dungeons, since dungeon bosses are rarely a huge threat.

The other skills are iffy for “casual random dungeon runs”.

The order is largely irrelevant, but the above is a decent ordering given the dungeons you will encounter when you scale down to <50.

Tank Role Actions for Raids

RAID ROLE ACTIONS ARE HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY ENCOUNTER! THERE IS NO TRUE ONE SIZE FITS ALL!

  • Rampart: Still absolutely essential, take this.
  • Reprisal: An absolute must in raids. 2 tanks and reprisal blunts loads of mechanics.
  • Convalescence: This gets better the more you communicate cooldowns with healers.
  • Provoke: Most raids require tank swapping, also if you or the other tank dies, this is essential for regaining control over aggro.
  • Shirk: A flexible skill that allows safe tank swapping and better aggro management.

Shirk is pretty useless in encounters without tank swaps (if ever there would be one).But for the love of god ALWAYS TAKE PROVOKE. Don’t be fancy.

  • Low Blow / Interject: absolutely RISE in value and should be taken in encounters that require more interrupts. Can be avoided if your DPS/ team have a good interrupt rotation.
  • Awareness if there is an enemy with a high critical hit rate you need to tank

If you’re looking to cut one of the “Default 5”, Convalescence and Shirk are first up on the block.

Anticipation is RNG based mitigation. Don’t ever bet your life on luck. Again, it excels versus many enemies as you’re more likely to get an “average expected outcome”.

Ultimatum is extremely situational in raids. So far there haven’t been any encounters designed where you need an AoE Provoke, but if you need it don’t hesitate to swap this in.

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Well, that’s about it for Tank DPS Role Actions! More than most classes, you have to be keen and adapt your role actions according to the encounter you’re playing! Put that effort, man!

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FFXIV Job Requirements Guide (+4.0 Stormblood)

STORMBLOOD UPDATED: Samurai and Red Mage Requirements. Learn the job reqs for ALL jobs in FFXIV!

Update: Stormblood Jobs: Samurai (SAM) and Red Mage (RDM) included. In this guide we list down all known pre-requisites to unlock every known job in FFXIV. Unlocking every job is not quite equal, so read on if you’re lost.

FFXIV Job Unlocks – Navigation:
Stormblood Jobs | Heavensward Jobs | 2.0 Jobs

For those wanting to ‘begin the game’ as Dark Knight, Astrologian, Machinist, Samurai or Red Mage – you can’t. Read on.

If you aim to become a Rogue or Ninja, you can start the game as any other class. You may consider Marauder or Arcanist since you would be in Limsa already (but in the end it, doesn’t really matter…)

Stormblood Jobs

Here we detail how to unlock the 4.0 Stormblood Jobs, Samurai and Red Mage.

1- You must have an existing Level 50 combat class (DoW or DoM).

Where & what are the unlocks quests for Samurai and Red Mage?

Job Quest Location NPC
Samurai (SAM) The Way of the Samurai Ul’dah: Steps of Nald (X:9 Y:9) Ul’dahn Citizen
Red Mage (RDM) Taking the Red Ul’dah: Steps of Thal (14 11) Distraught Lass

Strangely, the SB jobs have no MSQ requirement.

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Heavensward Jobs (DRK, MCH, AST)

Here we detail how to unlock the Heavensward jobs Dark Knight, Astrologian and Machinist.

1) You must have an existing Level 50 combat class (DoW or DoM).
2) You must have completed “Before the Dawn” (all story quests prior to 3.0).
– Only then will the job unlock quest open up…

Where & what are the unlocks quests for Dark Knight, Machinist and Astrologian?

Job Quest Location NPC
Dark Knight (DRK) Our End Ishgard: The Pillars (13,8) Ishgardian citizen
Astrologian (AST) Stairway to the Heavens Ishgard: The Pillars (15,10) Jannequinard
Machinist (MCH) Savior of Skysteel Ishgard: Foundation (8,10) Stephanivien

Reference links: (To be linked)

If you’re a new player wanting to rush into either Dark Knight, Astrologian or Machinist:

You gotta get to 50 first, ey? Since cross-class skills no longer exist, you can pretty much select any class to rush to 50. The suggestions below are for the sake of “familiarity” with the job you’re getting in to.

Dark Knight: Start the game as Gladiator (to Paladin). Once you’ve done the requirements above – switch to Dark Knight.
Astrologian: Start the game as Conjurer (to White Mage). Once you’ve then once you’ve done the requirements above – switch to Astrologian.
Machinist: Start the game as Archer (to Bard). Once you’ve done the requirements above – switch to Machinist.

2.0 Jobs Requirements

All of the “el classic” Jobs must be unlocked via having Level 30 in a base class! You MUST COMPLETE THE JOB QUESTS! They removed the L15 requirement some time ago, thankfully!

You may start the game as any base class except Rogue. If you wanna rush to Ninja, pick any base class and switch once you’ve gained the right to switch classes (Level 10 AFAIK, or locked behind L10 MSQ? It’s quite near).

The quest to receive the job crystal is from the respective base class guildmaster.

Advanced Job: Base Class (Level)

  • Bard: Archer (30)
  • Paladin: Gladiator (30)
  • Dragoon: Lancer (30)
  • Warrior: Marauder (30)
  • Ninja: Rogue (30)
  • Monk: Pugilist (30)
  • Scholar: Arcanist (30)
  • Summoner: Arcanist (30)
  • Black Mage: Thaumaturge (30)
  • White Mage: Conjurer (30)

For a quick rundown of where each base classes’ guildmaster is:

Limsa Lominsa – Class Guildmasters
Arcanist (ACN) | Marauder (MRD) | Rogue (ROG)

New Gridania – Class Guildmasters
Archer (ARC) | Conjurer (CNJ) | Lancer (LNC)

Ul’dah – Class Guildmasters
Gladiator (GLD) | Pugilist (PGL) | Thaumaturge (THM)

Base Class reference Links
Physical:
Archer (Bard) | Gladiator (Paladin) | Lancer (Dragoon)
Marauder  (Warrior) | Pugilist (Monk) | Ninja (Rogue)
Magical:
Arcanist (Scholars) (Summoners) | Conjurer (White Mage) | Thaumaturge (Black Mage)

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FFXIV 3.2 Warrior (WAR) Best in Slot (BiS) Gear

3.2 UPDATED! WAR Best in slot guide! “Ax is Hax”. WAR Lore buy order, Melding, Pages & Normals, more!

Back again to deliver the pain to deez goblins again I see? Welcome to the 3.2 WAR BiS! If for some reason you were hiding under a rock… – as of 3.2 tanks stack VITALITY! Thanks to Claes Henrietta for the help!

Quicknotes: Warrior BiS is an iteration of the PLD “Basic tank” set – the WAR BiS will account for the minimum 590 Skill Speed!

Navigation: Warrior BiS
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3.2 Warrior Best-in-Slot

WAR BiSItemMeld 1Meld 2AccCritDetSS
WeaponPrototype Midan Metal AxeSS VSS V-1238324
Offhand-------
HelmAugmented Hellfire Mask of FendingSS VSS V-694624
BodyMidan Coat of FendingCRIT VCRIT V112102--
HandMidan Gauntlets of FendingCRIT VCRIT V4824-69
BeltAugmented Hellfire Belt of FendingSS V--51-12
LegsMidan Breeches of FendingSS VSS V-1127524
BootsAugmented Hellfire Sabatons of FendingCRIT VCRIT IV6969--
NeckAugmented Primal Choker of FendingSTR V--36--
EarringAugmented Primal Earrings of FendingSTR V-51--36
WristAugmented Primal Bracelet of FendingSTR V-51-34-
RingAugmented Primal Ring of FendingSTR V-36--51
RingMidan Ring of FendingSTR V-51-34-
FoodSteamed Staff---40-16
StatsTotal stats from gear--418626272256
End value--772980490610

WAR BiS Discussion

590 Skillspeed: Is the minimum needed SS for optimal rotation, (616+ to be safe). Which this set applies. The PLD BiS is the baseline for any tank set, and this set if merely modification of it, only changes being:

  • Earrings, to get some more SS (and puts us above ACC CAP)
  • Melding, wherein many DET melds become SS.

Thankfully, we don’t lose ANY crit at all to accomodate SS (But loses some DET and Parry, which is a pretty value change).

For those not yet A8S cleared – the 590 SS is almost inevitable as both the lore weapon  and coat have SS.
(Augmened Hellfire Battleaxe, Augmented Hellfire Armor of Fending)

Don’t care about 590 SS? Check out the PLD BiS.

Why STRENGTH melded in accessories? Yes, 3.2 is all about VIT on tanks – BUT that doesn’t mean STR is WORTHLESS. In fact, it still EASILY beats any secondary stat in terms of DPS (Crit, DET, SS). So we maximize this by melded STR when we can – in this case, only Accessories.

Accuracy isn’t a problem in this set, unlike the PLD set which requires a minor tweak depending on preference.

Ultimately the Warrior BiS is pretty amazing, with only a tiny percentage of “wasted” stats (A tiny bit of parry and accuracy). Thankfully, with the exception of melds – the difference is just ONE item (and weapon).

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WAR Lore Tomestone Buy Order

The below spending strategy is purely to obtain BiS fastest:

  • Boots: Acc Crit – a stable first buy.
  • Mask: Since it drops later on…
  • Belt: Since it drops later on…
  • (Preference) Any other left-side filler (Chest>Legs>Gloves)
  • Weapon: Waiting until left is “complete” isn’t bad for tanks.
  • Ring > Wrist > Earring > Neck (Accuracy first!)

ANYTHING ELSE IS OPTIONAL: left-side fillers should be prioritized (Chest, Legs, Gloves) then Ring (Unupgraded).

USING UP PAGES AND MIDAS NORMAL PARTS

Click on the expandables below to see how you should spend pages, and which Midas Normal parts to get first –

Midan Savage Pages
Midan Normal Parts

Click the above!!!

WAR Crafted Gear Viability

As I said up top, going for quicker notes so I can update all BiS pages, will be going back for this on the second pass.

Navigation: Warrior BiS
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I hope you Fell Cleave your way to loot, progress and broken robots once again! GL gearing up your Warrior for BiS in 3.2! For more FFXIV updates, Like our Facebook. Message us on Twitter! Check out our YouTube and Twitch!

FFXIV Warrior (WAR) Cross-class Skills (3.0+ Updated)

HEAVENSWARD UPDATED: What are the best Warrior Cross Class Skills? Find out the best cross-class skills of WAR and the best way to get them!

What are the Marauder-> Warrior Cross Class Skills? Here, we will be strictly discussing the cross-class skills Warrior can get.

How many cross-class skills can I get as a Warrior? Any job class may only equip five (5) cross-class skills.

From what other classes does Warrior get skills from? Gladiator and Pugilist.

What are the best Warrior cross-class skills? This is discussed below.

Full list of Warrior (WAR) Cross-class skills

NameIconLevelDescriptionFrom Class
Savage Blade4Attack that generates enmityGladiator (GLA)
Featherfoot4Increases evasionPugilist (PGL)
Flash8Increases enmity in all nearby enemiesGladiator (GLA)
Second Wind8Instantly restores own HPPugilist (PGL)
Convalescence10Increases HP restored by spells or actionsGladiator (GLA)
Haymaker10Delivers an blow after evading an attackPugilist (PGL)
Internal Release12Increases critical hit ratePugilist (PGL)
Provoke22Increases enmity in targetGladiator (GLA)
Awareness34Nullifies chance of suffering critical damageGladiator (GLA)
Mantra42Increases HP recovery via curing magic by 5% for self and nearby party membersPugilist (PGL)

Warrior (WAR) Cross-class skills discussion

SET IN STONE: Provoke > Internal Release > Convalescence > Awareness > (Last slot: FLEX)

Savage Blade – Useles since you have your own version.

Featherfoot, Haymaker – This duo is technically most utilized by the Warrior. Is it worth 2 slots? No… it really isn’t.

Flash – Is pretty good in 4-mans. It’s a contender for FLEX slot in SOME ENCOUNTERS ONLY.

Second Wind – Not bad. Doubles as an aggro generator! Contender for FLEX.

Convalescence – Really good, but it requires some coordination with healers (or a good sense of tanking) to maximize.

Internal Release – +Damage on Warrior… legit always.

Provoke – is technically a must-have for any encounter with a tank swap mechanic.

Mantra – While good for others to take, you have more important skills like…

Awareness – is good when now a days! A lot of encounter crit, and also fixes problems if you mess up Raw Intuition.

Ideal Warrior (WAR) Cross-class progression

  1. Marauder to 15 for: Unlocking other classes.
  2. Marauder to 30 for: WAR Requirement.
  3. Gladiator to 15 for: WAR Requirement.
  4. Monk to 8 for: Second Wind.
  5. WAR to 50 for: Maximum level.
  6. Monk to 12 for: Internal Release.
  7. Gladiator to 34 for: Awareness
  8.  Monk to 42 for: Mantra (All Cross Class Skills Obtained)

Summary

  • Warrior use skills from: Gladiator and Pugilist.
  • Best Warrior Cross-Class Skills:
    Provoke > Internal Release > Convalescence > Awareness > FLEX
  • Flex slots would likely be: Second Wind, Mantra or Flash. (Featherfoot is okay for 4’s)

More Info: Marauder | Warrior | MRD WAR Stats

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FFXIV Warrior (WAR) Leveling Guide

How to level up your Warrior (WAR) fast! Useful cross-class skills, reminders, and the best places to be in any level – HERE!

A Warry kind of guy huh? You’ve found the right guide if you’re leveling a Warrior! Check out the Warrior Basics if you need a refresher. You NEED to complete all MRD class quests (last is level 30) (got Butchers Block?, that means you’ve done it). Also Gladiator (GLD) class quests up to 15 (got Shield Lob on your Gladiator? check). Again, this WAR leveling guide should be used ALONG SIDE the General Leveling Guide.

Help! Where’s the WAR Guildmaster / quest giver? It’s Curious Gorge, located in Costa Del Sol, Eastern La Noscea (18, 27). No quest? backtrack to the MRD Guild in Limsa.

Wait a second, I’m below level 30! No problem, the Marauder Leveling Guide is for you :) Coming into this guide, be done with your level 20-29 hunting log, and allocate all stat points into STR. Messes up your stats? Get a Keepers Hymn from your GC.

Reminders before we proceed: Your WAR will level up faster if  abuse Challenge Logs and Daily Roulettes! Also – Accuracy Food is a lot more useful than you think.

Warrior Level 30: Fresh off the Block

Reminder Level 30: Queue up for guildhests More than a Feeler and Annoy the Void.
> Level 30 Battlecraft / GC Leves: Costa Del Sol, Eastern La Noscea.

Facemelting and butchery continues! Picking up from the MRD Leveling Guide, you should be in Costa FATEing it up. You can do this until a MAX of level 35 (Warriors can move to Coerthas sooner…).  Same old same old – if FATES are hiding get your Warrior behind to the levemete.

Cross-class skills: When you equip your Warrior soulstone, your crossclass options reduce quite a bit. Flash, Provoke and Second Wind are the best bet for now.

Level 30 skill reminder – Defiance: DO NOT use this while soloing. DO USE this while in dungeons. This is your bread and butter tanking stance. Please, for the love of god… don’t be that “Oops, forgot defiance” guy.

Reminder Level 35: Queue up for guildhests Shadow and Claw and Long Live the Queen.
Level 35 Battlecraft / GC Leves: Observatorium, Coerthas. (Also, Wineport ELN)

At around level 35 you can move to Coerthas Central Highlands. This place has a bunch of people (most of the time) doing a bunch of fates. If you’re soloing you might not get to tag them all! Partying up in Coerthas is popular, so it’s easy to find one! The Svara quest chain is like swimming in a metaphorical pool of EXP. (Begins @ Svaras Fear)

Level 35 skill reminder – Inner Beast: Real talk – Inner Beast is a massive skill that uses up your warrior resource: Wrath. Learning about how and when and why to use Wrath and what for separates the Warriors from… well.. “b!tches”. Inner Beast gives a huge damage reduction for a small window. While it’s effects are straightforward, Inner Beast and its proper usage is a large part of a pro Warriors repertoire.

Level 38 skill reminder – Storms Path: This skill combos off Maim. It applies a SIGNIFICANT “damage dealt minus” debuff on the enemy. Great for single tanking painful enemies. It goes without saying – this skill is absolutely massive in raiding.

Warrior Level 40 to 50: The last stretch… for now…

Reminder Level 40: Queue up for guildhests Ward Up and Solemn Trinity.
Level 40 Battlecraft / GC Leves: Whitebrim, Coerthas. (or Bluefog NThanalan)

Once you hit WAR 40, your first objective is to get a burst of EXP to try and hit 41 or 42. How? Any free challenge log entries, daily roullettes, early hunting logs, and guildhests. Why? since our next destination is Ceruleum Processing Plant, Northern Thanalan to FATEGRIND. Why skip Mor Dhona FATEs? Not many people FATE there. It’s best to party up in CPP (especially the early levels) check the PF or Shout – there’s no downside to partying up here in the early 40’s.

Level 45 Skill Reminder – Unchained: Newer warriors may neglect this skill, but it’s the real deal. It cancels the damage reduction from Defiance. Learn to use this as often as able whilst tanking, and try to time your Berserk with it!

Reminder Level 45: No more guildhests for now :(
Level 45 Battlecraft / GC Leves: St. Coinachs Find, Mor Dhona (Or CPP, NThanalan)

At level 49, might as well finish your WAR hunting log – it’s the last chance anyway!

Level 50 Skill Reminder – Storms Eye, Infuriate: Storms Eye gives a slashing resist down debuff on the target (useful for many classes), a DPS and threat increase! Infuriate instantly gives you 5 stacks of wrath. It’s on a relatively short cooldown – so yes, this plus Inner Beast is balls. (It’s great for pulling with Unchained as well)

End-game resources for your Warrior

CONGRATS on reaching 50! What to do now with your sparkly new WAR?

It’s been a long journey leveling your Warrior – but fortunately the adventure is JUST BEGINNING! Thanks for reading! For more updates check Like our Facebook! Hit us up on Twitter! Ciao!

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Warrior – leveling up 50 to 60

Level 50 Battlecraft / GC Leves: ???

Level 55 Battlecraft / GC Leves: ???

This section is reserved for The 3.0 Heavensward update. For now, check out our Heavensward info page and Heavensward preparation page.

FFXIV Tanking stats: Parry or DPS!?

Should you consider Parry on your gear? Should all tanks go DPS 100% of the time? Are Parry tanks baddies? COME IN AND LEARN.

Hey guys! If you’re here, then you’re probably wondering what’s all the fuss about tanking and parry. Here, I’ll let you guys know MY stance on tanking, parry and all things in between. (I also wanted to write a resource I could link to, instead of repeating myself ad infinitum, haha). Hopefully, this guide will help you decide what’s best for YOU in this regard. Here goes: FFXIV Tanking & Parry guide!

(Disclaimer: Even a post this long doesn’t encompass the entire argument. I will be adding to this in the near future)

The Problem: War of the Parry camps

Two main camps exist. “Parry sucks nuts” and “Parry is needed“. This mini-conflict has affected even me, when writing the PLD, WAR and soon to be DRK BiS lists. Now that I’m going to write this easy to go-to resource, that will change. I’ll list down the main points of each side.

Parry sucks nuts

Parry scales poorly, therefore don’t use it.
Parry is random, so how can we rely on it?
Parry sucks because all attacks are scripted
Parry should be replaced with DPS stats (DET > CRIT > SS)
(MAIN CON): Higher risk of death

One (human factor) thing I dislike about this camp is that SOME tanks on this camp call tanks with parry “bad”. While this is not true for most of them, it does exist. I definitely see why tanks would want DPS gear. Two main reason being: fighting DPS races. However, not all tanks/ scenarios/ statics are equal, so you cannot just blindly put DPS stats on your gear – and blame your healer when you die.

Parry is needed

Parry helps mitigate damage, every little bit counts
Parry is still a lot better than some DPS stats (CRIT & SS)
(MAIN CON): Garbage DPS

These guys are a little more old school, and I see why their logic is sound. The more damage you mitigate, the less risk for your raid. But I also concede that you cannot just blindly put parry on your gear. There is such thing as sacrifcing too many stat points into something you might not maximize.

So how do we make sense of all this? Both sides make valid points, both sides have ups and downs. We should ask ourselves a more constructive question. Instead of “Does parry suck or not suck?” we should ask ourselves a better question, “When should we focus on DPS, or Parry and why?

Analyzing Gains: What does each stat DO FOR US

DPS Stats for tanking: Why? Let’s ask ourselves, realistically, what gain can be had when itemizing for DPS?

  • Pushing phases.
  • Beating enrage timers.
  • E-peen

Parry for tanking: Why? Again, what gains can be had when itemizing Parry?

  • Less risk of death
  • More free mana and time for healers (subsequently increasing healer DPS)
    • This point is moot if your healers arent DPSing or conserving mana when needed.

These are all valid points. Let’s discuss each one, and let’s try to gain some insight on what exactly is going on here.

(DPS)Pushing Phases: First we must Identify when specifically pushing a phase matters. And I mean MATTERS, not just for some BS reason for the sake of pushing a phase.

Pre 2.4, upon entering T6 Savage, it soon became painfully obvious that having any more than 1 honey spells out a very, very difficult P2. So we squeezed out as much DPS as possible, this included having our Off-tank (Warrior) Mitlet Gyles wear more and more DPS gear until we were sure we could Phase with 1 honey even given sub-standard RNG. We weren’t just pushing phases for funsies – having 2 honey was FATAL. We can consider the above use of DPS stats, viable.

Example of not viable? “Wear DPS gear all the time just to push phases, because, you know… pushing phases is good”. Aye, I get it. Pushing phases is never truly a bad thing. But not all phase-pushing is equal! Sometimes you NEED it, and other times it’s just a luxury.

(DPS)Beating enrage timers: Very similar to the above. If you guys have a good run, but still lose to enrage – you have to squeeze extra DPS somewhere. Our first enrage wipe in T13 was at 3%, but had a death in final phase. It was too close to call – so our OT at the time Claes Henrietta (Warrior) wore another 2 DPS accessories to cover any possible randomness.

Example of not viable? Wearing full DPS gear in an encounter you just got into fearing enrage timer. You’re giving undue stress to your healers and not gaining as much experience as you can. So in essence, we should try for a more defensive setup when learning, and as you gain more experienced when to use cooldowns / knowledge of mechanics – we can push for more DPS.

(Mythbusting) DPS is king, Parry sucks ’cause everything’s scripted: BS. Pure BS. Yes, heavy attacks are scripted in (IE Death Sentence, Ravensbeak/claw, Flatten/Akh Morn). Basic attacks? no. If you’re gonna tell me to my face boss basic attacks don’t matter – you crazy. Having less damage from basics gives your healers a huge windfall in mana. Or in another perspective: opens up more healer DPS.

(PARRY) Less risk of death: The uncool counterpart to DPS’s points. I think because it’s a boring, linear point is why it gets so much hate. But is it true, no matter how you spin it. But this also has a small caveat: This only works when you’re actively taking damage. That’s one point we will discuss later.

(PARRY) More free mana and time for healers: Again, another upside. Less stress on healing. but to truly capitalize on this point – you need decent healers! If they’re wasting mana anyway, or never DPS… what’s the point!? I guess the only way around this is to monitor/advise/communicate as a TEAM. So this can be considered a con… “more parry doesn’t apply to all groups”, but also “more parry assists in the success chance of PUGs” (in terms of safety).

(SUMMARY) Both DPS and Parry are good: WHEN THEY ARE IN EFFECTThis is an interesting conclusion, while quite obvious, there are a lot of complex ideas behind that simple sentence. DPS stats are great, but are severely dulled while MTing. Parry is great too, but SUCKS when OTing! What a conundrum… But I think you see where I’m going with this.

The Solution: Maximizing your stats to your role

This is my stance. For a long time I haven’t been writing the most flexible of tank BiS’s because a page like this didn’t exist for further explanation. Now that I’ve gotten around to writing this – things will change. Now that we see how, when and why both DPS and Parry are good – how do we maximize this? If we cannot come to one solid scenario for a case to state “All tanks must parry”, or “All tanks must DPS” then we do what logically comes next:

As tanks, you should CREATE the ideal scenario to maximize your stats.

Okay let’s take a scenario, and try to maximize our gains for each type of tank.

Encounter example: T12 Phoenix
Main Tank: PLD
Off-tank: WAR

Phoenix has a forced tank-swap: Revelation. No tank can survive 2 Revelations, and we ASSUME that it comes every minute. With the exception of Hallowed Ground / Holmgang – a second Revelation will definitely show you the truth (AKA Respawn prompt). So if we go by every minute the tanking sequence end up like this

Assumptions

  • let’s say, 10 minute fight. We will see 10 Revs, and Phoenix dies before the 11th minute
  • First rev happens after 1m, then every minute after that.
  • for simplicities sake let’s ignore Brand
  • Also, swap 10s before next rev

So if they did things “normally” they MT 5 minutes each, split evenly.

If both tanks itemize DPS: for 50% of the fight, your DPS stats are reduced by 25% efficiency (from stance)
If both tanks itemize Parry: for 50% of the fight, your parry is useless. (not ideal)

That’s a big case for DPS right here. So in the most brainless of scenarios, DPS is the clear winner – at the sad expense of us healers (hehe). But is this the best we can do?

Now lets say we utilize our skillset to the fullest. The PLD will use HG to survive 2 “Second Revelations” and laugh death in the face… the tanking order looks like this.

  • PLD (01:00) Revelation
  • PLD (02:00) Revelation: Hallowed Ground
  • PLD (02:50) Revelation soon (Tank swap) (PLD 2:50)
  • WAR (03:50) Revelation soon (Tank Swap) (WAR 1:00)
  • PLD (04:50) Revelation soon (Tank swap) (PLD 3:50)
  • WAR (05:50) Revelation soon (Tank Swap) (WAR 2:00)
  • PLD (06:50) Revelation soon (Tank Swap) (PLD 4:50)
  • WAR (07:50) Revelation Soon (Tank Swap) (WAR 3:00)
  • PLD (08:00) Revelation eaten (PLD 5:00)
  • PLD (09:00) Revelation: Hallowed Ground (PLD 6:00)
  • PLD (09:50) Revelation soon (Tank Swap) (PLD 7:00)
  • WAR (10:50) Phoenix dies around this time or much sooner (WAR 3:xx)

So in this example, let’s use a a 65-35% uptime between PLD and WAR respectively.

If PLD itemizes Parry: for 65% of the fight Parry is working for you (an improvement to 50% in previous scenario)
If Warrior itemizes DPS: for 65% of the fight, DPS stats are at max (an improvement from 50% in previous scenario)

But wait… Warrior can and SHOULD use Unchained only when he’s tanking.. further increasing uptime!

If Warrior itemizes DPS: for 75% of the fight, DPS stats are at max (further improvement > 65 > 50)

The answer is dead simple, yet most people don’t see it. Parry is better the more you MT, DPS is better the more you OT… that’s quite an unexciting answer after all this discussion!

Clarifications, Summary and Recommendations

1) The more you MT, the better parry is (and the WORSE dps stats are due to stance) – So why spec DPS if this is the case? The more you OT, the better DPS stats are – SIMPLE! So instead of stubbornly picking and sticking to one camp – the first step of evolution is to keep the above statement in mind.

2) Warrior Unchained makes DPS stats more weighty. Ignoring the Defiance reduction is HUGE. This makes more sense for warriors to OT. Paladins make a more stable MT anyway, given they can also block! So why force the issue of “equality” – Maximize the strengths of both classes!

3) Adjust your strategy to accomodate these itemization choices: The most important thing we’ve learned here today is that all this theorycrafting is absolute garbage if you don’t find ways and means to push this strategic advantage to its absolute max. Some encounters already do this for you. In T13, you have a 14 minute encounter wherein the MT stands in front of Bahamut for 10 MINUTES. Not counting the Zoo phase, this gives warrior almost 100% uptime without Defiance! The only exception is the P2 adds (what… 1 minute total?)

Now I wont stop you if you still insist on stacking DPS stats if you MT most of the fight. But keep in mind, doing this is gimping your team. The solution? Owning a great mix of gear should cover all your needs. Being stubborn and inflexible isn’t pro – that’s being BAD.

“Im on 100% DPS gear and healers cant keep me up – damn pugs!” You can try wearing parry and see how it goes. Cleared the fight and didn’t hit enrage? Good. You hit enrage? Switch up some gear. Can’t clear with either sets? You or your group are fundamentally flawed – and itemization doesn’t matter.

“I cleared this/that boss with DPS/Parry and I don’t agree with you” If you’re overgeared, none of this matters. I can clear T13 with both tanks rocking 0 secondary stats if you’re in full 130. But if you REFUSE to see when a situation or strategy needs either Parry or DPS, that’s just limiting yourself. Having one statement be the clear RULE applying to all tanks/ composition / scenarios / encounters is downright FOOLISH.

But I’m sure as many tanks read this, we will still have diehard DPS campers, and diehard Parry campers – and that’s fine. I just wished to throw my stance out there.  Hopefully this helps out anybody whose considering being a tank – and those current tanks who might want to learn a thing or two. Again, these are my own thoughts and I’m not forcing anyone to side with me.

Anyways – GOODLUCK parrying and DPSing where necessary, haha! Hopefully our Parry vs DPS stat guide for tanking helped you out somehow. If you have anything to contribute, please comment. Like us on Facebook for more awesome updates!

FFXIV Marauder / Warrior Stats & Materia Guide

What’s a good marauder stats build? What are useful warrior stats? Marauder /Warrior materia? If any of these questions brought you here, you came to the right place. Whether its by stat allocation, gear or materia: knowing what stats your Marauder or Warrior need should never be far from mind!

Marauder (MRD) & Warrior (WAR) Stats

What are the marauder or warrior stat weights?

VIT > STR > Parry > Critical Chance > Determination > DEX

*These may vary slightly from patch to patch, or by personal preference. Following the recommendation above will always give you a good MRD & WAR build.

Marauder (MRD) & Warrior (WAR) Primary Stats Allocation

What stats should I add as a marauder or warrior?

Vitality – Increases total HP. Many skills of MRD/WAR scale of total HP, and this also makes you a better tank. Really, it doesn’t get any simpler than that.

STR – Hit harder, Parry for more, and generate more threat. Marauders that make the case STR>VIT have a bit of logic in it because so many of the Warrior skills scale off damage. Don’t get sucked in to thinking you’re DPS though.

Dexterity – Increases Parry Chance. While you might not ever need to allocate a third primary stat, this is the only remotely useful one.

Maruko’s Note: VIT or STR, how much should you get of each? Marauders will be throwing this argument around until the sun goes down. While you really want STR, VIT is ALWAYS IMPORTANT. As far as stat allocation goes, just focus on VIT because you can always customize your materia later on if you find you need more STR (unlikely).

Marauder (MRD) & Warrior (WAR) Secondary Stats

What are good secondary stats for marauder and warrior, and why?

Parry > Critical Chance > Determination

While you can’t allocate this directly, these will be heavily considered when picking gear upgrades and slotting materia.

Parry – Marauders have an extremely thin HP pool. They have alot of HP but no mitigation. Adding Parry somehow counters this weakness.

Critical Chance – Serves to increase damage, threat and shields generated from Storms Path.

Determination – Generic stat when you have nothing else to put into that serves to increase damage and threat. *If you somehow want more damage and threat, value crit and determination over parry.

Marauder (MRD) & Warrior (WAR) Materia

This is directly related to the first section. As you may know, all gear has a limit for each stat it can have, the higher its Item Level, the higher amount of stats it can hold. So the idea is to max out (or get close to maxing out) the left most, and work your way right. Again: VIT > STR > Parry > Critical Chance > Determination > DEX

Materia Name
VIT: Vitality
STR: Strength
Parry: Battledance
Critical Strike: Savage Aim
Determination: Savage Might
DEX: Dexterity

See Also: Materia Guide | Melding Guide Summary:

  • Overall MRD WAR stat importance: VIT > STR > DEX > Parry > Determination > Skill Speed
  • MRD WAR Stat allocation: VIT> STR > DEX
  • Secondary stats for MRD WAR: Parry > Critical Strike > Determination
  • Reference links: Marauder FAQ, Warrior FAQ

That’s about it! Any major changes to marauder stats will be placed here, so follow us on Facebook or Twitter for any updates.
Have a question about MRD WAR? Chime in on the comments or in our Marauder / Warrior Forums.

Paladin VS Warrior Tanking Comparison

Warrior Or Paladins? Is one truly better than the other? In this battle of the fat, we try to determine just that. PLD VS WAR comparison!

warrior war versus paladin pld tanking guide and comparison

Inevitably, it’s come to this. “Who is better”, Warriors (Marauders) or Paladins (Gladiators)? Here, we will try our best to give you the ins and outs of each class. Note that we will be discussing level 50 PLD and WAR capabilities, and this somehow extends to lower-level Gladiator and Marauder comparisons.

This is also our very first ‘community driven’ guide – we will be discussing key points in the forums, ultimately leading to the content to this page. Participate and be commended!
PLD vs. WAR Forum thread

For reference you can open these windows (Opens in New Tab):
Gladiator | Paladin : Marauder | Warrior

Base stats / Innate capabilities

Warrior
The main advantage of a warrior is it’s immense maximum HP. Does a lot of damage, and indirectly increases defenses by doing so. Marauders and Warriors are extremely combo sensitive, and are definitely more difficult to play. This further extends by adding the “Defiance” / “Infuriated” warrior system. Compared to Paladins, these guys pack a huge punch. Parrying serves as a welcome additional defense (Although Paladins have this too), they cannot block.

Paladin
Damage reduction / mitigation is the paladins key trait. Wears a shield by default (Blocks!). Paladins have a reactive gamplay style, and are much easier to play ‘mechanically’ than warriors. Paladins are susceptible to burst damage with a low HP pool, but over the course of longer encounters – their mitigation more than makes up for it. Their “Effective HP” is much much higher than a Marauder. Their damage is so pathetic, and could possibly be out DPS’d by a Conjurer.

So here we see the main difference, Warriors rely on HP and Damage. Paladins rely on Damage Reduction. This becomes brutally clear in the next section:

Defensive Skills

Warrior
— MRD —
Foresight – Increases defense by 20% for 20s. Recast 90 (Traited)
Bloodbath – Gain 25% “Lifesteal” for 30s (Traited). Recast 90.
Mercy Stroke – Killing a target with mercy stroke restores 20% of max HP. Recast 30 (Traited)
Thrill of Battle – Increases max HP by 20% (Traited) and heals for that amount. Duration 10s.
Storms Path – (If Combo’d into) Creates a shield equal to 20% of damage dealt up to 10% of max HP.
—WAR—
Defiance – (Stance) Increases maximum HP by 25%, while lowering damage dealt by 30% and increasing enmity.

Paladin
— GLD —
Rampart – Reduces damage taken by 20% (Traited) for 20s.
Convalescence – Increases HP restored by spells or actions by 30% (Traited) for 20s.
Awareness – Reduces critical strike damage taken by 15% for 25 (Traited) seconds.
Tempered Will – Immediately cures Bind and Heavy, while preventing knockback and draw-in effects.
Sentinel – Reduces damage taken by 40% (Traited) for 10s.
Bulwark – Increases block rate by 60% for 15s.
— PLD —
Shield Oath – (Stance) Reduces damage taken by 25%, and damage dealt by 30% but increases enmity generated.
Hallowed Ground – Renders you impervious to most attacks

Wow, from here it becomes rather obvious that warriors have the short end of the stick when it comes to purely defensive skills. Foresight is directly inferior to Rampart (Which also reduces magic damage) and Sentinel (40%!). Thrill of Battle is ‘cute’ at best, amounting to a large heal. Storms Path is the warrior saving grace here, giving you a reusable shield without a long cooldown.

Paladins on the other hand have a long list of defensive skills, all ridiculously effective. Just by comparing the stances, the trade-off for 30% reduction for damage dealt is just completely lopsided in the paladins favor: 25% damage reduction for the paladin, and 35% max hp for the warrior. While 35% HP is better in a vacuum, when healers are involved, this becomes next to useless (Remember Effective HP?)

Warriors scale extremely well with offense, and even benefit from it defensively. While this is good, the survivability gained is just nowhere NEAR the Paladin. Not even close.

Threat Generation

Both Paladins & Warrior have no trouble generating threat. It’s the small differences and situations that make the Warrior superior to Paladin in terms of threat.  It’s very unlikely that DPS will pull aggro during a fight from either a Paladin or Warrior, so what’s the difference? Two key points.

Threat on Demand
The main difference? Warriors are better in more desperate times. When sh*t hits the fan – you’re going to want a warrior. When resources are tight, and adds spawn, Warriors are much much better at picking them up and making them stick. Paladins have superior resource management and will match a warriors threat over time. Warriors excels at keeping up with initial burst aggro when picking up and killing newly spawned adds.

Adds, AoE
In both single target and AoE situations, Warriors will out-threat Paladins any day. Paladins also have decent AoE threat, but simply pale in comparison to what Warriors can do to multiple enemies, and struggle alot less to build up initial aggro. It’s like Warriors WANT adds to spawn, and lots of them, while Paladins would rather not!

Due to the length of this post, we split it into two pages. In Page 2, we discuss Healer Preference, Overall Kit, and finally Summary and Recommendations.

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